Ishapore No6 Jungle Carbine SMLE Prototype

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In 1943, the British government began a program to develop a shortened and lightened version of the No1 SMLE rifle, for production in India and Australia - where the national ordnance factories had not converted to production of the No4 rifle. This prototype is the first pattern produced by the Ishapore Arsenal for testing. Its barrel is cut down to 16.5 inches (plus a 2.8 inch long conical flash hider), it has a unique 3-position flag style of rear aperture sight, and has had its sling swivels repositioned. This rifle was tested in the UK, and some modifications were recommended. A second pattern from Ishapore was then provisionally approved as the No6 MkI on September 1st, 1944, but cancelled before production could begin. The Australian pattern of No6 was approved a year late in September 1945, but then declared obsolete before it could be put into production. With the end of World War Two and Indian independence in 1947, the funding and impetus for a new short rifle were lost, and instead Ishapore would end up converting its production to No1 pattern rifles in 7.62mm NATO a few years later.

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Shiladitya Talukder

Ive seen police patrolling with this rifle but with the 2a1 version

9 months ago | [YT] | 61

Harold Ellis

4:10 The 4th aperture is the world, and is set for 0 meters.

9 months ago | [YT] | 32

Jon H

I like the SMLE but I'd like a 2 hour Gun Jesus special detailing every Number and Mk

9 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 8

Bradon Higgins

I notice that a large amount of flash hiders from that Era were a conical design. When was the switch to the 3/4 prong design and who thought of it first?

9 months ago | [YT] | 155

Jean Vallee

That rear sight is as irritating as my employers IT support.

9 months ago | [YT] | 48

Minute Man

It would be interesting to know the path an Ishipore prototype rifle took to get from India to a table in front of Ian at an Auction house in the US.

9 months ago | [YT] | 66

The Nuclear Chipmunk

All praise our two Lord's
Gun Jesus and the almighty Danny devito

9 months ago | [YT] | 0

kiros harlequin

HI Ian, as an Australian I'm here to say you don't pronounce the w in Lithgow its just pronounced "lith-go"

8 months ago | [YT] | 0

PAUL DUNSFORD

Ian you pronounce Lithgow. As lith Go the w is silent!! Cheers mate

9 months ago | [YT] | 54

Andrew Rosen

It’s Lith-Go

You don’t pronounce the w

9 months ago | [YT] | 4

oldesertguy

I actually like the chunkiness of this over the Mk 5. I'm wondering if they did lightening cuts to the receiver?

9 months ago | [YT] | 1

Mike Tanner

Ian, love your work mate, but it's LITH GO.......

9 months ago | [YT] | 0

Rifleman Moore

As I understand the wandering zero inherent in the No. 5 was less of an issue with these because they didn't lighten the receiver. I could be wrong but I always thought the 'Jungle Carbine' nickname was a bit of a misnomer based on use in the jungle post war whereas the No. 5 had actually been intended for airborne troops and then for army wide introduction when originally designed.

9 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 14

darkspire91

An M14 style flash hider would work really well aesthetically.

9 months ago | [YT] | 0

Cameron Bullock

I thought Lithgow in Australia made No 4 rifles

7 months ago | [YT] | 0

Waffle Man

It’s pronounced lith-go

9 months ago | [YT] | 0

Juan Carlos Segade Canosa

We need a longer bayonet, sahib. Did they use the 17 inch or the shortened 11-12 inch blade model?

9 months ago | [YT] | 1

MatoVuc

Honestly, in jungle combat distances that are not unlikely to be within 100m, the no rear sight setting might be quite effective as well, particularly for a soldier wvo has a good feeling for the rifle and how it shoulders right.

9 months ago | [YT] | 16

UnDeaDCyBorg

This certainly has an uncommon look. Or rather, sight picture. Between this and the flash, can you actually see anything? While interesting to see now, as Gun Jesus notes in his infinite wisdom, you'd pretty much always use the lowest distance. Doesn't that just add needless complexity?
Also, I wonder if a buttstock with slightly protruding screws isn't somewhat uncomfortable in the long run.

9 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 4

Matthew Dobbs

These are really cool looking rifles!

9 months ago | [YT] | 0